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http://www.eagleware.com/news/whatsnew/agilent.htm
Great! Now Eagleware products will go up 4X in price, and go down 2X in quality!
i think it will be high in price ,, and very high in quality
Unless Agilent see this as a way to tap into a bigger part of the market, by offering a less costly option to buyers with smaller budgets.
Another alternative is that Eagleware is a privately owned company. The owner may be getting up in age and wanting to sell and retire.
I think that the simulation market has saturated. Everyone who needs a program has bought one. This may be another reason to sell.
Yeah, obviously HE is laughing all the way to the bank! It is the user's that are going to get screwed! Anyone remember when HP bought HFSS? Product innovation died, and product price skyrocketed.
HP probably just wants to eliminate a low priced alternative to ADS!
I am not upset that Randy Rhea made quick cash from this transaction; I am upset that a useful and user-friendly tool will disappear from the market.
The guys from ADS will never learn something from their new colleagues.
i donot know why most of the ppl say that @DS is not user friendly
i think it is very userfreindly ,
about the usefullness or not , i think no one can say that @DS is not usefull
khouly
For one thing, ADS manuals were written by programmers (hence they are jiberish). For another thing, ADS is super expensive. I have not had to buy a new seat recently (thank god!), but do they still charge for the most basic of stuff like transistor models, etc?
it's not a good news, genesys has many professinal article or application,that will be very helpful for beginer.
I agree with khouly, ADS is very good in post processing. It is very flexible how do u do with your data. The models is now avaliable from manufacterure for popular tools. ADS is one of them :)
Posted by Eagleware on their forum
http://forum.eagleware.com/viewtopic...878&highlight=
Hello All,
Agilent is not looking to play in the Eagleware-Elanix market, but to excel in it. They plan to keep both GENESYS and ADS tools, thus offering customers more choices. With Agilent's strong worldwide sales and support resources, you will see the growth of GENESYS use. This larger group of users will mean more opportunities for cross polination of ideas by users and more resources for GENESYS improvement.
Agilent has offered jobs to substantially all Eagleware-Elanix employees, and they will continue to work on GENESYS products. The intent is not to kill a great set of tools but use Agilent's worldwide channels to increase GENESYS use. Both GENESYS and ADS offer important solutions to RF problems. The acquisition is viewed positively by Eagleware and we are excited about the opportunities it offers for the products we spent 20 years building, as well as for our loyal customers.
Thanks for your past loyal support. Give us a chance to earn your continued support.
Clear skies and high Q
Translating the above into common English: We made a marketing mistake by setting prices too high and as a result the sales are low. We cannot admit making such a mistake by lowering prices. A work around is to offer another program at lower prices.
Do you really believe this BS? Born yesterday?
Agilent is going to take over genesys, replace it with an "update" that looks like an ADS lite version, but start to jack up the prices. Any new additions/modules will be at big bucks. In a few years, there will be no Genesys left, and everyone will be riding the S60K ADS pony.
I'm sure the downside scenarios above are certainly possible, but I am guessing that things might not turn out totally bleak from the viewpoint of the Eagleware user.
Agilent's big weakness is the low price easy to use niche. This is something AWR has been very successful exploiting. If they merge Eagelware into ADS and make Eagleware vanish, then that niche is left wide open for AWR. I don't think they want that. So, my guess is that they keep Eagleware firmly in that niche, strengthen their position in that niche (just as Randy describes above) and then make sure there is a good migration path from Eagleware to ADS for customers that might eventually need and want a high powered, high priced tool. This is the approach we take with SonnetLite, and which, by using Eagleware in a similar (but not zero cost) role, would maximize Agilent's competitiveness with AWR.
However, I am certain AWR will agressively defend and expand their niche too. I am keeping both my eyes open, could be interesting!
This is all positive for Sonnet, because all three tools (Agilent, Eagleware, and AWR) have wonderful interfaces into Sonnet, which leaves us sitting very nicely.
Like someone mentioned on the eagleware forum, once the documents are signed they "@gilent" can do what they want.
AWR has a deal where one can trade their Eagleware license for Microwave Office. I sent them my Eagleware dongle and they are sending back a Microwave Office dongle. This offer is free with no strings attached. FYI I do not work for AWR, just a satisfied customer.
http://www.appwave.com/products/offer/
Anyone who thinks that the Eaglware acquisition by Agilent is going to be a good thing is either too young to remember how they wrecked EEsof or has spent too much time on the wrong end of a krack pipe.... (as if there is a right end?)
For those who need a trip down memory lane... within a few years of the then HP take over of EEsof..... just about every eesof employee capable of getting another job did... (the dead wood fit right into the HP Way)... Prices went up 3X and customers were fed some delusional pipe dream about an integrated product within 2 years. 4 years later they delivered a brain dead train wreck called ADS 1.0... and customers got stuck debugging this abortion for 5+ years before it was stable. Even when it was stable it was slower and less capable then either MDS or SIV. The smart customers either stayed with Series IV or moved to AWR.
Eagleware, unfortunately, will face a similar and dismal fate. The good employees will leave... the Marketing Wizards at ADS will come up with some BS spin to feed the management types.... and the product will languish for years. Then spiffy ADS sales guys will drive up in their company cars and tell the EW users how they really need to "upgrade" to ADS.....
Dejavu!
Now, THAT is interesting, madengr. How good is the AWR Microwave Office? 2004 linear simulator and layout program? Is it easy to transition from one to the other? How much is technical support per year after the 90 days?
What does the "Locked limited time hardware key" mean?
The PO reads:
MWO-105 Microwave Office Linear Simulator w/Layout - Locked
Limited Time Hardware Key Rebate Promotion
I think the "Limited" pertains to a limited time offer, not the hardware key expiring after a certain time.
The definition of "license" in the license agreement reads:
a. License. Customer will receive a perpetual locked license as ...
I guess this means if you don't pay support then they have to provide a non-expiring license file for the version of the software you had at the time support ended.
I have used Eagleware since '93 (bought it in college when it was still S995) and had that for home use but have not used it much since switching to MWO. Also used Series IV then ADS came out. I have used MWO for probably 3 years now. It's very easy to pick up but I don't want to do a lengthy comparision here. Download the MWO demo and go thru the tutorial. You'll like it.
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